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  1. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    Judaism is a culture as much as it is a religion - I know a bunch of Jews who were culturally VERY Jewish but did not believe in the religious tenets
  2. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    My grandmother excommunicated herself from the Catholic Church in the 70s or 80s or so - it is definitely possible, and it's been for a number of years. I think this is also at the discretion of the archbishop of that particular country and the vibe therein - perhaps the church has realised that...
  3. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    He was still very religious, but he did not believe he'd done the wrong thing and that there were sins to confess. Also, the fact he was a fake priest doesn't stop him from being religious. He is very cool though. I love Mr. Eko (as you can see, my avatar is Desmond...)
  4. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    Win for quoting Mr Eko, fail for realising that character was, as it happens, religious :)
  5. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    If you're not religious, claiming to believe a religious story certainly appears to be just that - mental. This is why I asked you to empathise with my position, that of the religious unbeliever It is fine and dandy, but you don't get to claim that religion is ok just because science requires...
  6. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    You need to get thicker skin if you see someone disagrees with you, mate. Also, you really have NOT READ THE WHOLE DAMN THING, because you were put off once somebody did NOT actually believe in God and thus deigned it possible to use a few terms that really point out how egregiously insane...
  7. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    Of course, that also shows the effects of being confrontational about this - but in a way it's also kind of sad that people have to adhere so rigidly to viewpoints even when they're being faced with a strong, debunking argument made against their ideas. These people do exist, they are the same...
  8. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    It's hypocritical to rag on scientists and people who believe in physics (as you'd have it) for having faith that an aeroplane flies when you're the first to step into it going on holiday to Ibiza. This faith is something we all have, that when you hold a can of water upside down, it will fall...
  9. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    Gravity is just a theory. Are you going to jump off a skyscraper to prove it?
  10. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    Catholics do. Protestants don't. It does, because they're operating UNDER YOUR FLAG. This isn't about paradise, either - this is about the quite simple fact that you don't get to pick "fundamental differences". They believe in God as much as anybody else. They have as much right to call...
  11. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    Stop trying to be funny. If you see all the vitriol EVERYONE SPOUTED AT HER for appealing the law to be upheld and all the crap they told her - you'd feel differently too. Are you seriously defending that? That is my proposition. You cannot, honestly, in good conscience, defend them for that...
  12. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    it's the fact that people still feel the need to make it a big deal FOR RELIGION that is causing the uproar and any stand against that is welcome in my books
  13. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    I am just happy we have people like Ms Ahlquist around. I am now watching her speech and I am like YES, FINALLY. To be honest that is all I can say. People talk about what religion gives them - themselves - and I think that, to me, is the whole story. It's just you, my friends. You don't give a...
  14. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    Besides the fact that Intelligent Design is of course a huge misnomer.
  15. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    No. They actually believe that that is what happens, as strange as it sounds. It comes with a load of other rules depending on what people actually believe. But I'm sure you can find a lot of people who are religious because they're trying to Pascal's Wager themselves out of their guilt.
  16. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    because it's not like they have a definitive book like the Qu'ran or the Bible, it's more or less a story that's been interpreted in a million ways and the whole catch 22 is that they're not requiring you to interpret it strictly either - and if you don't care about it it's your good right cos...
  17. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    it has plenty of books describing stuff, but not one definitive one iirc - as in, there's no definite person or tale that inspired anything, except siddharta in a very roundabout way
  18. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    nope, buddhism doesn't have one iirc
  19. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    not necessarily true, plenty religions don't need a book
  20. Tarvos

    Religion and Lack of Religion

    It's fun. My parents are both members of the Catholic church but they have zero religion in their brains, while I know a fair amount of Christians who do not go to church regularly
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